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Search Engines You Never Knew Existed

Posted by Bill Sebald | Other Search Engines | Tuesday 29 July 2008 9:07 pm

As a search engine junkie, I’m always pulling for the little guy with a good idea. I love competition in the marketplace, especially when they introduce some new ideas.

Yahoo and MSN are very concerned about the future of their properties, despite aggressive roadmap announcements. They’re prime targets for a Cuil-type overtaking.  Google may rule, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I break their mindshare (or mind control? Hmm…) more often in the future.  I’ll happily switch to non-traditional search engines or platform engines – that is, if I find them effective. Unique results speak for themselves.

Here’s a few engines I found – few of which I use (I admit).  But maybe the next winner comes from this list.  What do you think? Shopping, meta, social, and vertical engines abound…

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Cuil Stumbles Out Of The Gate

Posted by Bill Sebald | Other Search Engines | Monday 28 July 2008 4:57 pm

My wife IM’d me today and says, “did you hear about the new Google?”.  Seriously.  So Cuil is making the rounds in a big way today, with a flare gun.  I’ve been finding posts on mainstream sites like CNN, and even MSN (Pulitzer would be proud!), it’s one hell of a launch when the headline is Ex-Googlers launch Cuil.  With a 120 billion page index out of the gate,  Cuil (pronounced ‘cool’) is really risking something with this huge grand scale ‘first impression’.  So far, it doesn’t look like the gamble is paying off in the search blogosphere.  Reviews have been poor to lukewarm (my favorite so far being over at Search Engine Land).

I found some bugs.  Not sure if it was due to an influx of new traffic, but a lot of searches didn’t resolve around 11:30am (eastern).  The “About Cuil” link didn’t work, either, but is restored now.

Also, for having more indexed pages than Google, I found it very thin in variety.  In a blended search world, I appreciate this engines layout, but it really does lack media blending.  Pages that seemed to rank well for their ‘relevancy’, as is the selling-point of this engine, didn’t seem to be all that relevant. I do very much like the Explore By Category feature, and look forward to that improving (it was my favorite feature of the SearchMe.com engine, but I’m not sure Cuil is quite as diverse here).

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Has The Fuse Been Lit For A Vertical / Social Search Explosion?

Posted by Bill Sebald | SEO, Social Media Optimization | Friday 25 July 2008 4:45 pm

“The search landscape is evolving” – sure, we hear that everyday in this industry, but when you log on to Google, it’s hard to drink the Kool-Aid.  I have to admit, I think I’m finally starting to feel the “hype” thanks to some inspiriting things from the Yahoo camp.  When Yahoo said they were going to “Open Up”, I didn’t think they’d kick the barn doors open this wide, this fast.  This is exciting.  On the heels of SearchMonkey, Yahoo recently announced BOSS, another component of their “Y!OS”, or Yahoo Open Strategy.   I think vertical / social engines are finally going to get their 15 minutes, and I couldn’t be happier. Click To Read More...

Return of the son of the “Google Buying Digg” rumor mill

Posted by Bill Sebald | SEO, Social Media Optimization | Friday 25 July 2008 4:10 pm

So there’s noise that Google’s going to buy Digg.  Is this breaking news?  Not really, unless you consider “breaking news” anything as old as March.  But the rumor part seems to be becoming less of a rumor according to TechCrunch .  A few days ago, news about a signed letter of intent started to circulate:  Google will aquire for $200 million-ish .  Like most engines, acquiring is part of Google’s big plan.  Monetizing these services with ads typically follows.  With Digg, this might be the biggest purchase yet in terms of mindshare (the previous winner being YouTube, but this was a bit befor YouTube was the bohemeth it is now).  Google bought Picasa, Blogger, Writely, and several others.

Digg uses Microsoft now for ads.  I’m not sure if they’re still using Federated Media in conjunction.  Obviously, MSN gets pushed out of the plan when Google steps in.  Plus, Google will likely start importing its other products and technology into Digg.  My question is, on the heels of my last post about Google’s social interface (that’s now testing), how much of Digg will go into Google’s search engine?  Is there technology that Google can leverage, or is it just simpler for Google’s engineers to develop it themsleves than shape to fit?  Maybe the Digg brand is the real driver.  When you think of social in any sense, you think of Digg (definitely not Orkut).

I think it all sounds pretty, well, normal, but I hate to see the purity of Digg disappear.  It’s a little like a big business swallowing up a pioneer, like record labels did with the Sex Pistols, or Wawa did with my favorite corner store.  No matter what good comes from the big, new, shiny neighbors, some of the charm is gone in this independent social-space neighborhood.

A little bittersweet for me, I guess.


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New Google Interface Popping Up All Over

Posted by Bill Sebald | SEO, Social Media Optimization | Friday 18 July 2008 2:21 pm

A couple people in the agency were blessed by Google today.  They got to try out a new social-driven interface.

This could be huge.

We knew Google was coming with something like this.  Once you’re logged in with a google account, you’ll have the options to remove listings you don’t like, change the orders, voting, add comments, and more.  PLUS – there’s a link that you can see how OTHER people organized the search for themselves.  Sound like tags.

Will the voting affect the natural search?  I have to think it might… since Google always says they’re about recommendation signals.  But would a thumb’s down hurt your rankings?

I also have to think that the traditional relevancy will stay very important to Google.  They put too much stock into their algos, and this kind of social search could be gamed.  But looks like the SEO 2.0 philosophy is going to start paying off.

Click here to see the new interface.

Click here to see the social part (a little buggy yet…)

More on TechCrunch.

Choking On The Term “Social Media” too?

Posted by Bill Sebald | Social Media Optimization | Wednesday 16 July 2008 5:22 pm

Here’s a relatively light-hearted post at Stage Two Consulting about what Social Media actually means.  I enjoyed the frustration, because sometimes I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t see the wildly rampant (and growing) misuse of this term in some of the forums, blogs, etc.  In my case, frustration loves company.  I found the post, and the comments, to be useful… like a support group. 

I think Amanda Vega made a great point in the comments. 

The Morphing Definition of SEO 2.0

Posted by Bill Sebald | Duplicate Content, SEO | Sunday 13 July 2008 1:42 pm

As SEO takes the (long) corner, and the web matures, there’s always going to be a need for reshaping.  SEO has a funky name in some circles, mostly from those who lump all the bad in with the good. To me, the things that really stood out about SEO were the connections it could make to people who are specifically looking for connections, and the idea of actually helping engines be more, well, human.  Humans helping robots helping humans.  It’s not as noble as DMOZ or Mahalo, but stands to work much, much better.

So last year, as SEO 2.0 started to make some noise, and the basic concepts started to bubble up, I was hooked. I took it to my agency. I define my consulting around it. I adore sites like seo2.0.onreact.com (who in true SEO 2.0 spirit are bringing the SEO community together with requests for definitions) who work at getting this new philosophy out into the SEO space. Maybe one day fewer people will look at SEO less as spamming, or a ‘throw darts at a map’ tactic, and more as an actual attempt to improve user value legitimately, and bringing to life the legend of storybook search engine goals.

Getting Links The Easy Way – Profile Pages

Posted by Bill Sebald | Link Building | Saturday 12 July 2008 7:49 pm

Here’s an easy SEO tactic.  It’s one of those, “Hmm- why didn’t I think of this before” type of moments for most people when I share it.  It’s easy, but it’ll have more branding power than actual “algorithm influencing” power.

So we know that getting links is mucho importanto.  But think about this – if you’re signing up for anything social these days, you’re creating a “profile page”.  These profile pages are nothing more than websites to search engines, and they compete on their own in the SERPs.  Links back to your partner site not only count, but the better your profile is optimized to be relevant to your partner, the MORE that link counts.  Since your profile page could theoretically now get served more often for targeted queries (because of good SEO), you’re casting a larger net in search engine land!  Your new listing can accompany your main listings, and give a little more branding and mind share.  Remember, a high presence in search engines semi-conciously tells people that you’re important because the great Google says so.

You just need to watch for results.  You want to make sure your profile page doesn’t trump a BETTER landing page, like one on your actual domain.  The profile pages won’t do much for your SEO goals, unless your only goal is getting any kind of SERP exposure.

Let’s say you have a progressive client, and have a Twitter account that you’re running them (or Facebook, or any blogging platform, etc.) – or maybe this is something you want to do for yourself and your LinkedIn page.  Optimizing their profile page, and targeting the kind of audience that best suits you, may really help get you more interest and traffic out of the SERPs.  Get some good keyword research going, and spread your profile around through links, comments and signatures.  With SEO, sometimes the little things go a long way.

Nuclear Backlinks – Do External Links Have Too Much Power?

Posted by Bill Sebald | SEO | Monday 7 July 2008 11:26 pm

Wiep is a cool blogger.  About a year ago he experiemented on his SEO blog with something I was intrigued by.  He linked to a Matt Cutts blog post that was playing with the spammy phrase buy cheap viagra online to make a point.  The post wasn’t exactly optimizing for this term – Matt was using it as a sample, and other commenters were having fun with it.  In the end, the phrase was repeated several times.  In Wiep’s post, Trust + keywords + link = Good ranking (or: How Matt Cutts got ranked for “Buy Cheap Viagra from a year ago, he noticed this, and decided to link to the page in his blogroll with that exact phrase as his anchor text.

Damned if Matt Cutts didn’t briefly rank third for buy cheap viagra online.  Briefly.

I remembered this post because Wiep followed up on this post – Viagra Link Test: One Year Later.  Looks like the ranking is back.

The basics of SEO sort of explain this.  Authoritative sites, with trust, reputation, etc., and PR from external sources gave Matt this ranking.  But where’s the relevancy?  What about those other 200+ factors that we webmasters/SEOs don’t know about?  They don’t seem to be in play here, unless there’s something about Matt Cutts and Viagra that we don’t know about either.

Maybe this is isolated to a small percentage of fringe cases, but with all the webspam out there still (even though it has gotten much better in my opinion), you’d think Google would have this sort of catch for this.  Something’s clearly not working.  In the original experiment, one link pushed this ranking to #3.  Now, with at least one current link still to this page, is this really enough PR to rank the term?  Does this mean external links might just have too much power?

I remember rumors of Page Rank being devalued even more.  I forget where I heard it.  It was months ago.  I thought it was a good idea, and this experiment reinforces it.  Trim back the external, and maybe turn up the internal.  Here’s why I think this:

1.  Link Spam, which is now out of hand with all the other spam , could drop.  So should bad link bait, comment spam, and pay-per-posts.  Ugh.  This won’t be going away as social media just gets bigger – nope, the reverse will happen.

2.  Engines would be forced to retune their overall algorithms, instead of putting thumbs in the dyke (hey, Microsoft – this isn’t working for Windows, either, by the way…).  I think a retuning could lead to a whole new property value.  I think the web is just about done with Google 1.0, and demanding Google 2.0.  It’s going to happen, so let’s get to it.

3.  Engines could get more semantic.  If they’re ever going to start serving human language outside of the box, they need to start reading human language.

4.  Speaking of human – the human element may come into play even more than before (c’mon Google, you can afford it… I’m not talking Mahalo, but kick up the hand-work a few more notches, if only to catch these kinds of algorithmic slip-ups).

5.  Not all webmasters are SEOs (most of them aren’t) – they’re trying to create sites that are user aimed, even if they’re not exceptionally good at it.  So giving extra attention to internal linking efforts in order to show the pages that webmasters think are good.  Aside from the splogs/trash affiliate sites, etc., most spam tactics are outside of internal linking.  Even if they start to spam internally, Google algorithiims should still be able to discount thin value.

Google, Yahoo now read Flash – so is Progressive Enhancement obsolete?

Posted by Bill Sebald | SEO | Wednesday 2 July 2008 8:23 am

With the surprise news that Adobe hooked Google and Yahoo up with a special reader for the spiders (which allows the engines to parse the .swf files and index/follow deeper content), does that mean the SEO’s PE special weapon can be abandoned?

I’m still going to stick with it for a while for my SEO blog and my clients’ sites. Google is adopting the reader first, and has technically been lightly reading some flash files already, but anyone who’s been in the game long enough knows that a lot of these properties launch with half-powered products all the time. Their track record isn’t stellar, so why not a ‘better safe than sorry’ approach?   I don’t think I would consider dropping PE until at least a few more months after MSN jumps aboard.  I’m not sure I would cease building products for the PE method (depending on the cost vs. value), and simple on-page coding is so easy – it seems like a no-brainer.

What about the other engines that will never be this advanced?  Do you care about them?  In preperation for vertical and social searching, I think it’s wise to consider what they could become.   I think this news is going to spark a huge influx of flash sites, but I’m thinking this still seems like a bad idea.


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